Comments on: Google Using YUI Grids CSS http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/ Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:26:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Google's BSD Licence Blunder! « There are the days http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-235 Google's BSD Licence Blunder! « There are the days Sat, 05 May 2007 08:49:08 +0000 http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-235 [...] BSD Licence Blunder! Looking at the Google Personalized Homepage css file, Zach Leatherman noticed that it is using YUI Grids CSS, released under BSD by Yahoo!. Google use it silently [...] […] BSD Licence Blunder! Looking at the Google Personalized Homepage css file, Zach Leatherman noticed that it is using YUI Grids CSS, released under BSD by Yahoo!. Google use it silently […]

]]> By: Filter for 11/4 2007 - Felt http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-75 Filter for 11/4 2007 - Felt Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:21:01 +0000 http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-75 [...] zachleat.com: Google Using YUI Grids CSS You should too. [...] […] zachleat.com: Google Using YUI Grids CSS You should too. […]

]]> By: Zach Leatherman http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-72 Zach Leatherman Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:08:03 +0000 http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-72 Isaac, it would seem that you are correct. The first sentence of the BSD license is as follows: <blockquote>Redistribution and use of this software in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met...</blockquote> But then the first condition only applies to redistribution and not to use. What restrictions are placed on use under the BSD license, if any? I hope that my misinterpretation of the license isn't deemed sensationalist, I really just thought it was interesting that YUI code was on the Google homepage. That's why the title of the article is what it is, and not "Google is stealing Yahoo's code" as some have repackaged it. Isaac, it would seem that you are correct.

The first sentence of the BSD license is as follows:

Redistribution and use of this software in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met…

But then the first condition only applies to redistribution and not to use. What restrictions are placed on use under the BSD license, if any?

I hope that my misinterpretation of the license isn’t deemed sensationalist, I really just thought it was interesting that YUI code was on the Google homepage. That’s why the title of the article is what it is, and not “Google is stealing Yahoo’s code” as some have repackaged it.

]]> By: Chris DiBona http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-71 Chris DiBona Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:50:55 +0000 http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-71 Technically, it is not distribution to put bsd code on a webpage even though that page is 'downloaded' to a webclient. We don't mind giving credit though. Technically, it is not distribution to put bsd code on a webpage even though that page is ‘downloaded’ to a webclient. We don’t mind giving credit though.

]]> By: 서준원 http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-70 서준원 Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:17:19 +0000 http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-70 Hey updong. It was surprised about KR posting in here. hehe Hey updong.
It was surprised about KR posting in here. hehe

]]> By: Isaac Z. Schlueter http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-69 Isaac Z. Schlueter Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:22:12 +0000 http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-69 Is this really a "redistribution" of the source code? <strong>Use</strong> of the code is free to all, with or without attribution. If Google decides to <strong>distribute</strong> code as part of a new package in either binary or source form, and that product uses or extends the YUI lib, then they'll have to include the attribution. AFAIK, that's how the BSD license works. (Of course, me !== IP lawyer.) But of course attribution is friendly, and a definite "good karma" kind of thing in all cases. And it's rather cool that Google is using our open-source tools; the YUI folks should be flattered. I'm a much bigger fan of the WTFPL for public open-source software, myself ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL Is this really a “redistribution” of the source code?

Use of the code is free to all, with or without attribution. If Google decides to distribute code as part of a new package in either binary or source form, and that product uses or extends the YUI lib, then they’ll have to include the attribution.

AFAIK, that’s how the BSD license works. (Of course, me !== IP lawyer.) But of course attribution is friendly, and a definite “good karma” kind of thing in all cases. And it’s rather cool that Google is using our open-source tools; the YUI folks should be flattered.

I’m a much bigger fan of the WTFPL for public open-source software, myself ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL

]]> By: Chris DiBona http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-63 Chris DiBona Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:03:03 +0000 http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-63 Hey, I work on open source compliance at Google and we're fixing the attribution issue. This is not cool at all but it will be fixed soon. Thanks. Chris Hey,

I work on open source compliance at Google and we’re fixing the attribution issue. This is not cool at all but it will be fixed soon. Thanks.

Chris

]]> By: mgratzer’s Blog » I Google stealing “Code” from Yahoo!? http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-62 mgratzer’s Blog » I Google stealing “Code” from Yahoo!? Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:31:19 +0000 http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-62 [...] Google stealing “Code” from Yahoo!? April 09th, 2007 Zach Leatherman noticed an interesting copy right problem within Google’s personal home page CSS. Some parts [...] […] Google stealing “Code” from Yahoo!? April 09th, 2007 Zach Leatherman noticed an interesting copy right problem within Google’s personal home page CSS. Some parts […]

]]> By: Keun-woo Ryu’s blog » Blog Archive » updong님의 미투데이 - 2007년 4월 6일 http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-54 Keun-woo Ryu’s blog » Blog Archive » updong님의 미투데이 - 2007년 4월 6일 Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:01:36 +0000 http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-54 [...] 그 대단한 구글도… attribution notice 를 지키지 않았어… 오후 2시 [...] […] 그 대단한 구글도… attribution notice 를 지키지 않았어… 오후 2시 […]

]]> By: Bob Dobbs http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-52 Bob Dobbs Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:52:10 +0000 http://www.zachleat.com/web/2007/04/05/google-using-yui-grids-css/#comment-52 There also seems to be significant overlap with the YUI CSS and font reset stylesheets. Compare these: http://yui.yahooapis.com/2.2.0/build/reset/reset-min.css http://yui.yahooapis.com/2.2.0/build/fonts/fonts-min.css ... to the first few lines of this: http://www.google.com/ig/f/tB22vfBbv0g/ig.css There also seems to be significant overlap with the YUI CSS and font reset stylesheets. Compare these:

http://yui.yahooapis.com/2.2.0/build/reset/reset-min.css
http://yui.yahooapis.com/2.2.0/build/fonts/fonts-min.css

… to the first few lines of this:

http://www.google.com/ig/f/tB22vfBbv0g/ig.css

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