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OSS is Out to End the Framework Wars—Jamstack Conf 2022

November 10, 2022
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Ryan Carniato (SolidJS), Fred K. Schott (Astro), Zach Leatherman (11ty), Jessica Janiuk (Angular), Alexandre Chopin (Nuxt), Sara Vieira (Axo)
The guiding principle of open source has always been that sharing our knowledge makes us all stronger. However, to look at the dogmatic behavior surrounding some frameworks, it’s hard to spot that principle in action these days.
Fortunately, a new cohort of frameworks is emerging that’s fully embracing collaboration, shared credit, and cooperation. In this panel, we’ll hear from the people building these frameworks and learn how we’re getting better software by working together instead of trying to “win.”

Post-conference Thoughts

One post-JamstackConf thought I wish I had communicated better on the frameworks panel:

The web will be better served by a broader plurality of successful frameworks: Lit, Qwik, Solid, Astro, Svelte, Marko, Eleventy, and the one y’all are dreaming up now!

The post-React world is here, it just needs your help to be evenly distributed 🏆

(First posted on Mastodon November 9, 2022)

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Zach Leatherman IndieWeb Avatar for a builder for the web and the creator/maintainer of IndieWeb Avatar for https://www.11ty.devEleventy (11ty), an award-winning open source site generator. At one point he became entirely too fixated on web fonts. He has given 81 talks in nine different countries at events like Beyond Tellerrand, Smashing Conference, Jamstack Conf, CSSConf, and The White House. Formerly part of CloudCannon, Netlify, Filament Group, NEJS CONF, and NebraskaJS. Learn more about Zach »


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  1. Daniel Saunders

    Daniel Saunders

    @zachleat 🙌

  2. Ondřej Pokorný

    Ondřej Pokorný

    @zachleat "Retweets" deserve a rename, though. :)

  3. Zach Leatherman :11ty:

    Zach Leatherman :11ty:

    @ondra fair!

  4. Roni Laukkarinen :verified:

    Roni Laukkarinen :verified:

    @zachleat Thanks for the tip! Will definitely try it out.

  5. Raymond Camden

    Raymond Camden

    @zachleat dumb q - do I need to do something in to 'pick up' mentions on Mastodon? It's been a while since I added it to my blog. It picks up bird app just fine.

  6. Zach Leatherman :11ty:

    Zach Leatherman :11ty:

    @rolle for the record I had already configured bridgy and was using it for tweets on my site—so if you haven’t already done that it might be a bit more complex!

  7. Zach Leatherman :11ty:

    Zach Leatherman :11ty:

    @raymondcamden yeah I had to click through the mastodon wizard on first!

  8. Zach Leatherman :11ty:

    Zach Leatherman :11ty:

    @ondra (it is done 🙌🏻)

  9. Sia Karamalegos

    Sia Karamalegos

    @raymondcamden @zachleat for me, I only had to click the mastodon button to do the auth and then they just started working

  10. Stuart Langridge

    Stuart Langridge

    @zachleat yeah, is great. It's an unsung hero joining a load of dots. I'm well pleased that it's propping up my webmentions. I need to work out whether it's handling Mastodon the same way, which I suspect it isn't because of the lack of search

  11. Raymond Camden

    Raymond Camden

    @sia @zachleat i've not been to in a while, im logged in now... i think - but dont see a place to enable mastodon

  12. Zach Leatherman :11ty:

    Zach Leatherman :11ty:

    @sil I had to verify it first on, fwiw

  13. Zach Leatherman :11ty:

    Zach Leatherman :11ty:

    @raymondcamden @sia has a mastodon button on the home page Bridgy

  14. Raymond Camden

    Raymond Camden

    @zachleat i think i got it... i think. thank you (and @sia )

  15. Sia Karamalegos

    Sia Karamalegos

    @raymondcamden @zachleat

  16. Sia Karamalegos

    Sia Karamalegos

    @zachleat jinx!

  17. Ondřej Pokorný

    Ondřej Pokorný

    @zachleat Perfect!

  18. Keith J Grant

    Keith J Grant

    @raymondcamden @sia @zachleat could use a little UI love, honestly 😅

  19. Zach Leatherman :11ty:

    Zach Leatherman :11ty:

    @keithjgrant @raymondcamden @sia Keith this sounds like you are volunteering, should I pass your name along 😅

  20. Keith J Grant

    Keith J Grant

    @zachleat @raymondcamden @sia I mean I *could*, or I could try to get Omnibear back in the FF add-ons store. You ask the indieweb folks what the want more 😉

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